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daniel
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Thanks for posting the image in question. It is by the Jesuit "iconographer" William Hart McNichols. He has done some horrid icons and used his art to promote a homosexual agenda (he did one called "The Passion of Matthew Shepherd", for example). And unlike other unorthodox painters, like Brother Robert Lentz, even when he does an orthodox subject, like this one, I find his work creepy, agitated instead of still.

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Mark
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Thanks for all the help so far...

I've talked with my ikon teacher; he's advised that they represent Shadrak, Meshak and Abendigo, the 3 youths in the firey furnace. He found this information on a video by an English iconographer....

Anyway, here's the link to the original question...

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=288745

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daniel
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I have a copy of a 17th (?) century Russian icon of the Mother of God Inviolate Mountain which has faces where the stars usually are on her robe. These are in profile and are blowing, representing the winds. She has a mountain in her bosom, and holds a ladder in one hand. A rainbow spans her robes, which also have rather psychedelic depictions of wind and cloud. The Christ child she holds has a scroll in his hand which reads "Before Abraham was, I AM" (in Russian). Her throne is sitting in a verdant garden. I don't know if this is the same icon of which you speak, but it is really rich visually and symbolically. The whole thing is rendered with a lot of detail, rather like the Strogonov school.

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This icon was originally found in one of the men’s monasteries in Tver, Russia, and was presented by the Superior to Cosmas Volchaninov in gratitude for his fine work in the monastery church. This icon was passed on from generation to generation, but Cosmas’s grandson placed the icon in an attic.

The young man’s bride endured insults from her husband and his relatives. In despair over her marriage, she decided to commit suicide in a deserted bathhouse. On the way there, a monk appeared to her and said, “Where are you going, unhappy one? Go back, pray to the Theotokos of The Clouded Mountain, and you will live in peace.”

The young wife returned home and revealed everything, not even concealing her thoughts of suicide. Her husband and his family searched for the monk, but they did not find him, and no one saw him but the young woman. This event took place on the eve of the Feast of the Annunciation to the Most Holy Theotokos.

The family found the icon in the attic, cleaned off the dirt, and set it up in the house in a place of honor. In the evening, the parish priest served an all-night Vigil before the icon. From that time, a Vigil was served in the house every year on that same day.

For more than 150 years, the icon was the property of the Volchaninov family – Katherine, daughter of Basil, the last of the Volchaninov line, married George Ivanovich Konyaev, taking with her the icon of the Mother of God as a precious inheritance. Moliebens and all-night vigils were served in the Konyaev house on March 24 and November 7 (perhaps this was the day when the icon was transferred from the monastery to the house of Cosmas Volchaninov).

In 1863, near the Church of the Smolensk Icon of the Mother of God, a decision was made to build a chapel in honor of St. Tikhon and St. Macarius of Kalyazin. The owner of the icon at that time, George Konyaev (who died in 1868 at the age of 97), wished to donate the icon of the Theotokos to the church. He asked the clergy to build another chapel for the wonderworking icon of the Mother of God of “The Clouded Mountain.”

He also said, “I feel the very best place for it is the temple of the Smolensk Icon of the Mother of God, since the place on which the church was built, in former times, was called a Mount, and since it was the highest place in the city. The inhabitants took their possessions to the Mount and saved themselves from ruin during a flood. Let the icon, The Clouded Mountain, remain on this mountain with your blessing, and let all who are buried here be veiled with Her mercy.” On July 15, 1866, the icon was transferred into the new chapel, which was consecrated by Bishop Anthony of Staritsk the following day.

On the icon, the Most Holy Theotokos is depicted on a semi-circular elevation, a mountain. On Her left arm, the Divine Infant blesses with His right hand. Upon the head of the Mother of God is a crown, and in Her hand a mountain, on which are seen churches with cupolas and crosses.

This icon should not be confused with the “Stone of the Mountain Not Cut by Hands” Icon on the iconostasis of the Cathedral of the Transfiguration at Solovki. The latter depicts the Theotokos in half-length, holding Her Son in Her left hand. In Her right hand, She holds a ladder and a stone with the image of Christ’s head (the King of Kings). Instead of the usual stars on her head and shoulders are the heads of angels. The title of that icon is derived from Daniel 2:44-45.

By permission of the Orthodox Church in America (www.oca.org)

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Hello Mark

Could you post this image here? Or provide a link to the other forum? It's a little difficult to comment further without seeing the icon itself.

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GLORY TO JESUS CHRIST!

Hello everyone!

I was in a discussion on another forum and someone posted an 18th century ikon of the Mother of God the Uncut Mountain.

On Mary's robes, where the stars are normally placed, there were "faces"... LITERALLY...

Can anyone explain what these are and why there are there?

Thanks!

You can also email me if you wish;

CAHEK13@gmail.com

thanks again!

mark

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